I recently purchased Bike Outliner and love to structure my ideas there. Now I am at a stage where I need to share these ideas with others and basically send the whole thing via email to one of my customers.
Really can’t find any export functionality. What are the best practice approaches to reuse the Bike content in something else?
I tried copy / paste to Apple Notes, but all the structure (indents) are removed.
Can you give us a screenshot of what you are trying and seeing ?
The Bike clipboard automatically contains various formats (including OPML, RTF, Plain Text, HTML, Bike XML), from which the receiving application selects, and here I am finding that the RTF (rich text) component of the Bike clipboard is selected by macOS Notes, and seems to paste well (indentation and emphases preserved)
For example, selecting the following in Bike, and copying with ⌘C
No, its like this. But I can’t send it like this via email as the indents are completed gone and without them the text looks odd and is harder to read. To give you an example, today I drafted up some great ideas and I wanted to share with my girlfriend who doesn’t own Bike. So, exporting it via PDF and send this via email? Pretty cumbersome.
I ended up putting the whole thing into ChatGPT and asked it to format it nicely or rewrite it. Both worked okay.
In a nutshell, I love using bike for brainstorming and focus writing but need to have everything in notes as this allows me to a) share it easily with others and even working together and b) is notes my central location for all sort of notes and thoughts in the end.
So, yes, I want to have bullets in Notes as well. Right now if I paste from Bike to Apple Mail it seems to work, that seems to be a workaround for me right now. But still not ideal. Don’t want to use any scripts, but appreciated your feedback!
To summarize, this not so much an export issue as a variation in which pasteboard format other applications choose from the clipboard.
The Bike clipboard contains a number of formats, including HTML, which does define Bike peers as <ul> unordered lists, displayed by default, in most clients, with bullets.
Mail chooses Bike’s public.html pasteboard item (so you do see bullets when pasting), but Notes and TextEdit, for example, choose Bike’s public.rtf pasteboard item, so you see no bullets when pasting.
The choice between pasteboard items is made by the receiving application, not by Bike.
A script, however, can be used to solve the problem.
For example by pruning out unwanted pasteboard formats from the clipboard, or by adding a new one.
If you feel that Apple should make the same pasteboard selection in all their applications (making the pasting behaviour of Notes and TextEdit consistent with that of Mail, for example, then you could try telling them )
Any idea what the best way to skip having to call Bike > Copy > HTML is… just make it part of the automation? I think I can do with AppleScript system events, but maybe there is a prebuilt Shortcut Action that I can’t find?
Highlighted text doesn’t translate over to Notes for some reason (even though Shortcut output shows highlighted text correctly). Can’t win them all EDIT: Notes doesn’t support highlighted text, that’s why
Sorry, no, I don’t think there is a built-in option to run menu items. I think Applescript or JXA is the only way to do that in Shortcuts.