Is anyone having trouble loading .opml files?

jessegrosjean · July 3, 2022, 3:03pm

I have a report where Bike is failing to open the attached OPML file. Seems to work fine for me. Anyone else noticed problems opening OPML files in Bike?

abc.opml.zip (1.2 KB)

mitchellm · July 3, 2022, 3:15pm

I have no problem opening the specific file you provided.

I also tried opening an iThoughts file (very large) exported as OPML. No problem opening. Any of the “notes” I had in iThoughts were lost, but the actual “nodes” opened as expected as an outline.

complexpoint · July 3, 2022, 4:30pm

No problem at all here in opening or re-saving that file.

macOS 11.6.7
Bike 1.3 (61)

(and no other OPML opening problems seen)

kimonostereo · July 3, 2022, 11:31pm

No problems here. Latest beta.

ros · July 6, 2022, 11:06am

HI,
I’ve tried opening an OPML exported from Scapple v1.4.1 and I get the error message The document “test for opml export.opml” could not be opened.
It is a very simple document but Scapple may contain some odd stuff. I only use Scapple as it integrates with Scrivener.
R

jessegrosjean · July 6, 2022, 11:13am

Can you share a simple as possible Scapple document that reproduces this problem when exported as opml. I’ve tried a few very simple Scapple documents and Bike appears able to open their exported opml.

complexpoint · July 6, 2022, 11:54am

Perhaps you could zip that in the Finder with Ctr-click for a contextual menu, choosing Compress to make a zip copy, and drag it into a post in the thread here ?

OPML exported by Scrivener 3.2.3 on macOS 11.6.7 seems to be importing well here into Bike 1.3 (61)

ros · July 6, 2022, 12:32pm

Here is the file.

Jesse has already opened it at his end.
My copy of Bike wont open an OPML file produced by itself. I have no other software which produces OPML to test a different file.
R
test_for_opml_export.opml.zip (731 Bytes)

ros · July 6, 2022, 12:34pm

Also I am using Bike 1.3(61) and Mac OS 12.4

jessegrosjean · July 6, 2022, 12:39pm

What results do you get when you open Terminal.app and use the mdls command to inspect the opml file path? For example I see:

jessegrosjean@Jesses-MacBook-Pro Desktop % mdls Scapple.opml
_kMDItemDisplayNameWithExtensions      = "Scapple.opml"
kMDItemAlternateNames                  = (
    "Scapple.opml"
)
kMDItemContentCreationDate             = 2022-07-06 11:11:55 +0000
kMDItemContentCreationDate_Ranking     = 2022-07-06 00:00:00 +0000
kMDItemContentModificationDate         = 2022-07-06 11:11:55 +0000
kMDItemContentModificationDate_Ranking = 2022-07-06 00:00:00 +0000
kMDItemContentType                     = "org.opml.opml"
kMDItemContentTypeTree                 = (
    "org.opml.opml",
    "public.xml",
    "public.text",
    "public.data",
    "public.item",
    "public.content"
)
kMDItemDateAdded                       = 2022-07-06 11:11:55 +0000
kMDItemDateAdded_Ranking               = 2022-07-06 00:00:00 +0000
kMDItemDisplayName                     = "Scapple"
kMDItemDocumentIdentifier              = 0
kMDItemFSContentChangeDate             = 2022-07-06 11:11:55 +0000
kMDItemFSCreationDate                  = 2022-07-06 11:11:55 +0000
kMDItemFSCreatorCode                   = ""
kMDItemFSFinderFlags                   = 16
kMDItemFSHasCustomIcon                 = (null)
kMDItemFSInvisible                     = 0
kMDItemFSIsExtensionHidden             = 1
kMDItemFSIsStationery                  = (null)
kMDItemFSLabel                         = 0
kMDItemFSName                          = "Scapple.opml"
kMDItemFSNodeCount                     = (null)
kMDItemFSOwnerGroupID                  = 20
kMDItemFSOwnerUserID                   = 501
kMDItemFSSize                          = 250
kMDItemFSTypeCode                      = ""
kMDItemInterestingDate_Ranking         = 2022-07-06 00:00:00 +0000
kMDItemKind                            = "OPML"
kMDItemLastUsedDate                    = 2022-07-06 11:12:00 +0000
kMDItemLastUsedDate_Ranking            = 2022-07-06 00:00:00 +0000
kMDItemLogicalSize                     = 250
kMDItemPhysicalSize                    = 4096
kMDItemUseCount                        = 6
kMDItemUsedDates                       = (
    "2022-07-06 04:00:00 +0000"
)
jessegrosjean@Jesses-MacBook-Pro Desktop %

jessegrosjean · July 6, 2022, 1:06pm

Another thing to test… what happens if you rename that opml file to have a txt file extension instead of an opml file extension?

mitchellm · July 6, 2022, 2:01pm

I have no problem opening the test_for_… opml file in Bike.

ros · July 6, 2022, 3:36pm

OK. changing to .txt and Bike opens the file.

Running terminal command results below.
I can see the kMDItemContentTypeTree is different

*****:~ $ mdls /Users//Desktop/test_for_opml_export.opml
_kMDItemDisplayNameWithExtensions = “test_for_opml_export.opml”
kMDItemContentCreationDate = 2022-07-06 11:01:25 +0000
kMDItemContentCreationDate_Ranking = 2022-07-06 00:00:00 +0000
kMDItemContentModificationDate = 2022-07-06 11:01:25 +0000
kMDItemContentModificationDate_Ranking = 2022-07-06 00:00:00 +0000
kMDItemContentType = “dyn.ah62d4rv4ge8086drru”
kMDItemContentTypeTree = (
“public.item”,
“dyn.ah62d4rv4ge8086drru”,
“public.data”
)
kMDItemDateAdded = 2022-07-06 11:26:07 +0000
kMDItemDateAdded_Ranking = 2022-07-06 00:00:00 +0000
kMDItemDisplayName = “test_for_opml_export.opml”
kMDItemDocumentIdentifier = 0
kMDItemFSContentChangeDate = 2022-07-06 11:01:25 +0000
kMDItemFSCreationDate = 2022-07-06 11:01:25 +0000
kMDItemFSCreatorCode = “”
kMDItemFSFinderFlags = 0
kMDItemFSHasCustomIcon = (null)
kMDItemFSInvisible = 0
kMDItemFSIsExtensionHidden = 0
kMDItemFSIsStationery = (null)
kMDItemFSLabel = 0
kMDItemFSName = “test_for_opml_export.opml”
kMDItemFSNodeCount = (null)
kMDItemFSOwnerGroupID = 20
kMDItemFSOwnerUserID = 502
kMDItemFSSize = 286
kMDItemFSTypeCode = “”
kMDItemInterestingDate_Ranking = 2022-07-06 00:00:00 +0000
kMDItemKind = “Document”
kMDItemLastUsedDate = 2022-07-06 14:11:52 +0000
kMDItemLastUsedDate_Ranking = 2022-07-06 00:00:00 +0000
kMDItemLogicalSize = 286
kMDItemPhysicalSize = 4096
kMDItemUseCount = 6
kMDItemUsedDates = (
“2022-07-05 23:00:00 +0000”
)
*****:~ *****$

jessegrosjean · July 7, 2022, 12:02pm

Good news is found a fix… Bike is declaring opml universal type identifier incorrectly… and that causes the problem. But it’s an easy fix on my end.

I think the reason it doesn’t happen on most Bike users computers might be that they already have other apps that declare opml identifier correctly, and that’s what is used. Just a guess.

jessegrosjean · July 7, 2022, 1:59pm

I’ve just posted a new preview release here that I think fixes the issue:

https://support.hogbaysoftware.com/t/bike-1-3-1-preview-64/4961

ros · July 8, 2022, 9:53am

Hi Jesse,

The link for the preview download goes to the regular download link.
This provides the 1.3(61) app.

R

jessegrosjean · July 8, 2022, 12:17pm

In Bike Preferences > General check “Include Preview Releases” and then check for updates to get the latest preview.

I’m not sure what to do about that link… I include it because I think somewhat often people who have never used Bike come directly to a release post… but there’s no easy path to download Bike, so I provide like to latest release. I don’t want to link directly to the release because often I’ll delete a few preview releases and that will create broken links.

I’ll update the wording on that link to make things clearer.